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Discussion about sea boxing and "Whitebeard"

Annar 2020-04-19 18:41

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# 121

Edit Date : 2020-04-xx

Finally a supporter that actually brand sense.

Chief Grapheme Witch

Lv threescore

# 122

Edit Date : 2020-04-20

The only supporter who actually have some flake of noesis about the game

Principal Graphic symbol Tamer

Lv 62

# 123

Edit Date : 2020-04-xx

I personally feel that the naval content is defective and unfinished.

I'chiliad coming from Archeage where the naval organisation is much more complete compared to BDO.

I do like the idea of being able to lath other ships and killing the helm. That opens upward opportunities and makes the game a lot more dynamic and engaging.
Classes like Lahn, Berserker will be sought out for naval content as a boarder to hijack ships.
Archers and snipers to put pressure on the opposing crew.
This besides means, there will be more one person on each transport now.
1 captain, perchance 2 - 3 defenders to prevent people from boarding ships.

This opens for more than dynamic gameplay as in archeage even though you had a small fleet, yous could however win against an army by guerilla tactics.

Hijacking a transport doesn't merely stop one time y'all succesfully kill all the players on board, you tin can Drive their ship. Use information technology confronting them etc. In taht sense, even your guildmates, teamates, freinds should exist able to utilize your send.

Shais with bubble, witchazrds with PA and AOE skills etc are perfect anti boarders.

Heck I would even like people with matchlocks to be able to do something. Have 1 carrack full of snipers target an opponent carrack to snipe thier captain. This way, You tin't leisurely canvas next to another ship and boom them with cannons. You take to exist careful, maneuver around them and be able to shoot cannons at a certain distance.
Have healers, past your side. etc Maybe arroyo a target with 2 carracks not simply 1 incase of enemy snipers etc

You basically rely on a crew and not just an army of vessels.

More than ships should also exist introduced. I experience the reason why naval content is defective compared to archeage is because you lot can have x corporeality of carracks and it will exist difficult to contend. Whereas if you lot accept a more varied ship or even gears for ships, it would exist possible for guerilla warfare or more than dynamic engagements

i.e. In Archeage, we have gear that allowed to shoot cannons further but did less damage than normal. This in mind nosotros can have a ''snipe' fleet.
We had clippers with harpoons to slow down bigger boats etc. making it easier to baord

You had modest boats with max sails to practice hitting and run tactics or to lure a chasing galleon into an ambus with their own party of ii-3 galleons.

All this; allows for dynamic gameplay and strategies. allowing whatsoever size order to come up out on height. As the way things stand at present, it is whoever holds the most carracks and upgraded gear, wins.

This is why i experience naval warfare is defective. If it was more than dynamic, i would be all up for node wars at sea.

Supplies should run out more faster in my opinion when using skills. I assume near people will obviously spam breezy canvas to out maneuver each other, or any other skills. Accept every other island have a wharf director to resupply. That way you have ninjas/kunos etc campsite resupply chains. Even if yous have the largest fleet in the server, it won't mean a thing if y'all are spread out thin. This opens up for further gameplay dynamics as guilds will try to marry with 1 another to command supply concatenation in times of war or focus on consolidating certain supply chain equally a big fleet

Every bit for negative karma. For me, both land and ocean. I feel they shouldnt be able to logout or switch character once they attack or kill. There should exist a cooldown, just similar the two swords that popular out once you lot just as much attack someone. That way, risk is higher. Even if you lot force DC with task manager your graphic symbol will withal exist idle for a minute or two; leaving you vunreble.
If they get killed, wether they are at body of water or land, they become to jail and same reprecussions should apply. For Sea, in my opinion would be their ship gear to be degraded.

However, i hate that in that location is no incentive for ruddy players. I beleive both land and body of water pkers should take their own benefits. Leaving land aside since it is not the topic on hand.

I am thinking something like islands, possibly out in margoria would be just bachelor to red sailors. Their barter or content volition be there. Information technology would yeiled less silver/seacoins simply if htey are killed in those areas, minimal penalisation i.e. jailtime
however if they merchandise in normal islands they would yield double than what is currently provided at the risk of gear/ship gear degrading should they exist killed in the normal areas. Being killed in margoria just allows you to ressurect at the closest safety zone equally a red player; in normal trade routes = autojail
Red players however will monopolize seacoins and special items from margoria nodes such as ship wrecked, incomplete send etc. Only way for normal peeps to safely become there volition be safety in numbers. Probably find a platoon of people to x upwardly who are doing more or less the same run.

I just don;t like how lvl 49s tin exist used.
Imo this is a design oversight rather than an exploit.
Grinding Hystria/Aakman/Stars end or higher level areas or doing land pvp equally lvl49 is gimped for the uncomplicated fact you don't have the skills you lot need to do enough impairment. This imo should be the same for lvl 49s on seacontent. Carrack or even ship skills should be level locked, even repair interactions will not be available.
Lvl49s probably limited to fishing boats, bartali, epheria. Annihilation else above y'all need a lvl fifty+ character.

Main Grapheme Warrior

Lv 62

# 124

Edit Engagement : 2020-04-20

You must protect yourself first  when this game system allowed whiteb*tch*s/whiter*t*rds what ever you lot chosen them.
- Bater and Khan can utilize Lv49 for prevented them from griefing you lot
- For Vell e'er remember check saling/barter ranking in you current server
Just endeavour to detect a way to deal with those r*t*rds before PA practice something like negative land karma to them.

Principal Character Guardian

Lv 61

# 125

Edit Date : 2020-04-20

here's my two cent

even if PA reworks the karma organization people volition e'er finda a way to exploit it to their bidding.

not taking sides here, only stating the obvious.

i dont care much most pvp on the open world, i but shrug it off when i get killed 3 times by my rival guild.

Principal Character Wizard

Lv 61

# 126

Edit Date : 2020-04-20

I know that guild like Whitebeard tin be so annoying,
that Lvl 49 is an old play tricks even when BDO still only focused on land content.
I got killed past them so many times that I even start making low-level barter char

I hate gild like  WB and then much that I wish they got killed over and over again.
But, no matter how much I hate WB, they don't break any rules in this game, they play past the rules. and In this PVP game, get killed by someone who over-gear like them, is the daily lives of BDO, both state, and ocean. Information technology'due south part of the game.

I just concord with 1 signal from you, about the karma arrangement.
Too bad PA doesn't balance the Karma arrangement on the ocean, Red players gratis to do anything since they don't even need back on land and get killed past the guards. there'southward no existent downside autonomously they can be hit by anybody on the server
oh, yeah... even tho PA requite harsher penalty for them... it'due south not like that going to stop Whitebeard from killing people, this change simply makes them even proud of themself, trust me

Also, I hope PA vitrify or requite society Galley more upgrade option, how the hell nine human crews send tin can exist sunk by single crew galleass under a infinitesimal

Main Character Valkyrie

Lv lx

# 127

Edit Date : 2020-04-20

Just make sailing like riding a horse, you can't PvP under level 50 character, can't exercise forcefulness PvP and tin't exist attacked, but nonetheless be able to use cannon for PvE. also 1 complimentary sailing and bartering exp exchange coupons per family after making that updates. please.

Also, make a no-PVP zone nearby Khan. a wider one. Make a 30 minutes no-PVP window earlier and subsequently Vell.

Don't mix strength PvP to a proper naval battle please, what is the betoken of beingness able to punish red player on carrack with some detailed mechanic to impale the helm directly when proper naval battle (NW on sea) is not even in the game? those carrack owners just demand a proper sandbox to test out their new ships, just dodge them, don't waste more time for them. Can't await for the proper naval battle tho.

I personally would like to be able to employ sniper matchlock to snipe the helm too, lol.

Main Grapheme Night Knight

Lv 56

# 128

Edit Date : 2020-04-21

First, effort fixing desync issues earlier even carp adding any of these on board battles.

Main Character Witch

Lv 60

# 129

Edit Date : 2020-04-21

Main Character Lahn

Lv 63

# 130

Edit Engagement : 2020-04-21

From how some Whitebeard members react is kind of toxic while the writer is whiny.
Both sides are trying to defend their betoken of view.

This can have been avoided if the author but focused on the suggestion and take not name drop a guild. Should have generalized information technology and be direct to SEA content.

For whatsoever guild that gets targeted by a post, meme or video. You should look a backlash from their members.

Also SEA content is a piece of work in progress of PA. just weeks ago they tried a Naval Warfare on Global Labs. So information technology's condom to say that PA is trying to improve the Game.

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Principal Grapheme Valkyrie

Lv 62

# 131

Edit Date : 2020-04-21

Now for Suggestion:

The system that I recall will work in SEA Content is categorized as what kind of Ocean Guild.
it can be separated into 4 categories: Pirate, Navy, Whalers & Merchant. which each blazon gets buffs and benefits.
Merchant Sea - Focus Bartering content (example. Bonus Sea Coins, Weight, Defense)
Whalers - Sea Monster Hunting (example. Bonus Damage, loot, and Exp against Ocean Monsters)
Pirates - Bounding main Raiding (can become 30%-50% loot of Merchant & whaler guilds)
Navy - Sea Compensation Hunters who chase Pirate Ships and protect merchant and whaler ships.

This is a work-in-progress Idea. But by and large, naval warfare/node war can be participated by Pirates and Navy Guilds.

For WhiteBeard for certain, they want to exist Pirates.

Main Grapheme Valkyrie

Lv 62

# 132

Edit Appointment : 2020-04-22

Merchant Body of water - Focus Bartering content (example. Bonus Bounding main Coins, Weight, Defense)
Whalers - Sea Monster Hunting (example. Bonus Damage, boodle, and Exp confronting Sea Monsters)
Pirates - Body of water Raiding (tin become 30%-50% loot of Merchant & whaler guilds)
Navy - Ocean Compensation Hunters who chase Pirate Ships and protect merchant and whaler ships.

This idea is fun where you tin can hire pirates/navy to protect your merchant ships or missions where Pirates/Navy have to sink a sure number of ships.

Whalers sell stuff to the merchant and barter to NPC etc etc

problem is this will not exist Prio ane even if they take in this suggestion.

And then many things in the game they can do but was never done and this volition likely never be implemented

Master Character Shai

Lv 61

# 133

Edit Engagement : 2020-04-22

Merchant Sea - Focus Bartering content (instance. Bonus Body of water Coins, Weight, Defense)
Whalers - Bounding main Monster Hunting (example. Bonus Harm, loot, and Exp confronting Body of water Monsters)
Pirates - Body of water Raiding (tin get 30%-50% loot of Merchant & whaler guilds)
Navy - Body of water Bounty Hunters who hunt Pirate Ships and protect merchant and whaler ships.

This thought is fun where you lot tin can rent pirates/navy to protect your merchant ships or missions where Pirates/Navy have to sink a sure number of ships.

Whalers sell stuff to the merchant and barter to NPC etc etc

trouble is this will not exist Prio one fifty-fifty if they have in this suggestion.

And then many things in the game they tin do but was never done and this volition likely never be implemented

Master Character Shai

Lv 61

# 134

Edit Appointment : 2020-04-22

yeah, adds more than flare to sea content and more competitiveness in the ocean. Navy Guilds gets commission by Whalers and Merchant Guilds for Protection.

which will also make Sea boxing more than realistic. they tin can revamp Pirate Island with a small town were only Pirate GUilds are allowed to enter.

While the navy will have an Isle Outpost every bit a base. this will be a perfect setup for a naval warfare.

besides higher compensation on a Pirate that sinks more ships.

This setup is good for setting up limitations in Sea boxing. only max 5 ships tin participate in a raid contract. v ships too in protect contract.
Merchant and Whaler Contracts gets more than income bonus.

Main Grapheme Valkyrie

Lv 62

# 135

Edit Date : 2020-04-22

I'thou here reading all of this as one of WB victim

fifty-fifty though y'all can be on acme of their carracks and cannot attack the wheel holder, they will just alter server to escape and salvage their carracks from attacks

Main Character Night Knight

Lv 62

# 136

Edit Appointment : 2020-04-22

Hi! I made a 1-pic guide. Hope it helps. ಠ⌣ಠ

Main Character Shai

Lv 61

# 137

Edit Date : 2020-04-22

Can someone list down all the suggested and the counter arguments?

So anybody who just reads now (like me) tin can take the full context of the story?

I dont barter nor heavily invested in Naval content so I would really like to know whats the situation.

My personal reason why I dont really invest in Sea content is that, the swimming in this game sucks compared to ArcheAge.

Main Character Sorceress

Lv 60

# 138

Edit Engagement : 2020-04-22

@LionessSpark your suggestions 10/10 sadly we accept sent 30+ tickets equally a guild asking for thigns like that. Promise they care. Exactly content like that we want so Pirate Island is for pirate people who also tin be raided by adept players etc. Our haul can exist robbed forus etc

Main Character Warrior

Lv 62

# 139

Edit Date : 2020-04-23

@L@zyT!tan development will take time. a year back I'k one of the players who transport a proffer of categorizing guilds to ease recruitment than posting in server chat.  Now, Nosotros got Guilds that can post recruitment base on what they focus on: Gainsay, Lifeskill, Sailing, and Adventure. Not exactly what I suggested but it's a adept improvement.

Right at present, I'g noticing they are focus first on improving the ships first and testing it in boxing before they role battle Mechanics in the Ocean. They just did a Naval Warfare testing before in GL. Think they are in the right management. We tin hope to expect more content.

Simply it would exist awesome to have a pirate against the navy in the ocean.

We can surely hope since PA is doing quite well in trying out content fifty-fifty if some failed such as the Shadow Loonshit and Nation State of war. Also, we have the Airship battle look up to in three-4 years.

Primary Character Valkyrie

Lv 62

# 140

Edit Date : 2020-04-23

at Ti-Tan. demand to arrange your name. T-I-T is an illegal discussion in this forum. hahaha

Principal Grapheme Valkyrie

Lv 62

# 141

Edit Date : 2020-04-24

@MalamNirwana No, lower than 50 tin't employ cannon. Unless I miss something, I tried using my caravel to shoot cannon. Yep there is a "Cannonball" shoot out from the bedroom, only no damage, also include "Please try once more in a moment". If you know a pull a fast one on or two, delight share it :D

Just in instance, I mean No Criminal offence.

Main Graphic symbol Ranger

Lv 61

# 142

Edit Date : 2020-05-26

i think one more than thing related to this proposition. I saw many nodewar in which some guilds placed their fort on a modest isle, then they use ships to shoot anyone that attack the fort. I will say it is skillful to use ships in nodewar , that thing also a good option. The problem is, the dmg of the ship just unfair, imagine severals carrack/carravel just board there and spam the cannon, which tin kill any unmarried 1 even with pa buff. 1 more matter is, if the other guilds dont have ships, they deceit do annihilation instead of suicide in society to hit the fort( and often die before they can even reach the battlement ). the skill dmg to the ship means nothing to them, while they hit similar a truck, and that simply demand a few people to defend the fort while others go and attack the enemies. I advise that skill dmg to the ship should be fixed , for example the ship is the meliorate version of the elephant, more dmg , more hp etc... but they become dmg from both people and ship, not simply from the ships every bit now. Promise this suggestion aid.
Give thanks you!

Primary Character Musa

Lv 62

# 143

Edit Date : 2020-11-01

Well the naval fame update brings me dorsum to this topic. I'thousand surprised that PA did something somewhen

Main Character Shai

Lv 61

# 144

Edit Appointment : 2020-eleven-01

Yes, and now they spead out all server to grief khan hunt of every single lodge, destroy all the cannon and impale player mountain cannon crusade kill player is not issue naval fame. Go along alt+c on and off so that if other striking them, they will exist plough pirate instead of Whitebeard.

Main Grapheme Ninja

Lv 60

# 145

Edit Appointment : 2020-11-03

Just Suggestion add NPC Naval Guard with Big send who tin can ane shot whatsoever ship in Game just in some region similar Illya Island or some Velia and Calpheon territory, so Ruddy role player / Pirate expanse just on Quilla Heart Island and add feature Guild Raid and club karma, if in your guild too Much PK or basicaly Brigand/Pirate guild you tin get red Society karma this is allow you to attack another guild no need to war to exercise information technology but the consecquence is Plus karma gild can attack yous, and for the raid guild Alliance society can raid negative karma guild so do negative karma club can raid alliance but node war only OwO)/ just some crude thought y'all can discus it guys if you know what i mean. maybe raid XD those White beard guild with over whelming amount of XD carrack,galleas,and carravel from all Channel/Server XD.

and i dissagree if this game just focus on PVP we accept Live skill here OAO)_ and information technology can make turn a profit and nosotros have PVE so PVP game BDO nahh OAO)/ yous need see more about this BDO earth, have you trading from Valencia to Grana or even have you visit Port Ratt and bring the merchandise to Valencia ?, or have you explore undersea ? or maybe search some hunting game or perchance just enjoy the game characteristic like Housing. or if you just muscle brain OwO)/ have you try new region ? try survive for some hour in High AP and DP monster or simply see on market what people demand like we demand more variation of abracadabra stuff or raw material and total fill up people order in market place.

for me this game is Complex game and difficult grind game OwO)/

Main Character Archer

Lv 56

# 146

Edit Engagement : 2020-xi-12

this game is mmorpg and im fine with it, this mail just waste of fourth dimension allow them update past themselves. beside i dubiousness they will mind hither

Main Character Sorceress

Lv 61

# 147

Edit Date : 2020-11-22

Nice twenty-four hours for comment on an old post ain't information technology!? Huha!!

Chief Character Shai

Lv 61

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